Re: GWAPA

["Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>]

I agree.  We can't count on any specific income figure from the convention,
so we can't count on it for a regular, recurring expense... Not to say it
can't help to flow money back and forth from time to time, just as we would
have funded the shortfall if the Houston convention had lost money.

Also, I think we should eventually, when we get on firmer financial footing,
work toward being able to pick up more of the tab for more of our speakers.

Karen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: GWAPA


> Umm, we already made #2 a requirement.  They must either be an AGA member,
> or a member of the local club.
>
> As for #1, I think this is a mistake.  I've talked to people about this,
> and pretty much everyone has said it is inappropriate for the convention
> to be used to prop up TAG.  TAG must stand on its own.
>
>   - Erik
>
>
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, David Lass wrote:
>
> > Not to be more of a PITA than I normally am -- but -- 
> > 1) The profits from an annual convention can become a nice source of
AGA's
> > revenues -- like the cost of putting out one issue of TAG?
> > 2) Do we perhaps want to consider making membership in AGA a requirement
for
> > attending the convention? We could simply roll an extra $20 into the
cost
> > for non-members, like we add the extra cost for books and mags?
> > Just thoughts.
> > David
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: GWAPA
> >
> >
> > > I boruhg tthe reg fee price up as a matter about promoting
> > > membership, the Bonus Bucks were one  idea that came up i
> > > response and now were back to talking about profit again.
> > >
> > > My protestation is that that's the wrong focus. Am I
> > > converted? I guess so. Do I think "profits" are inherently
> > > bad?  Nope. But I'm connvinced membership is AGA's future
> > > -- Convention "profits" are not.
> > >
> > > BTW, since we are officially not-for-profit, we should
> > > refer to the revenues that exceed expenses as "net
> > > revenues". I'd hate to hear the IRS quote us. ;-\
> > >
> > > sh
> > > --- Kathy Olson <kathy@thekrib.com> wrote:
> > > > I would be worried that if limited on some items in the
> > > > auction it is
> > > > harder to track, creates more hassel.  I agree about
> > > > limiting it to x
> > > > number of people.
> > > >
> > > > Basically if we do 50 people with bonus bucks at $10
> > > > each, that means it
> > > > is $500 less that the convention makes.  I like the idea
> > > > of bonus bucks
> > > > and do think they are catchy, but in an organization
> > > > where we are worried
> > > > about do we have enough to do everything we want how much
> > > > can we afford to
> > > > do.  Maybe we do this for the first 20, or not at all.  I
> > > > feel like a
> > > > stick in the mud on this, but it is just one more thing
> > > > for them to worry
> > > > about.  Totally override me on this one....it is okay, my
> > > > feelings are not
> > > > that strong.  It is just when we are counting pennies
> > > > giving away dollars,
> > > > doesn't seem okay.  I know we think the convention should
> > > > make money, but
> > > > we are facing more hotel fee's on this one, and nothing
> > > > is certain.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I feel like such a naysayer here, but $500 is
> > > > $500 of profit.
> > > >
> > > > Okay, back to doing my online continuing medical
> > > > education here...have to
> > > > do that before Feb and not sure how much more time I will
> > > > have!
> > > >
> > > > Take care
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Karen Randall wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I think the bonus bucks idea is cute and catchy.  If we
> > > > want to lessen it's
> > > > > possible effects on the auction, we can always just
> > > > allow the use of the
> > > > > bonus bucks on certain donated items. But I think
> > > > that's an idea that should
> > > > > be presented to the committee, but not forced on them.
> > > > If they like it
> > > > > fine, if not, that's OK too.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have some other ideas based on the Q&A thing you sent
> > > > us a few days ago,
> > > > > but I haven't had time to type them up... After
> > > > tomorrow I should be able to
> > > > > get to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Karen
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > > > > To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:37 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: GWAPA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > As a group, we are absolutely definitely soft on $69.
> > > > I
> > > > > > think that's it.  Bonus bucks for the first 50?  They
> > > > were
> > > > > > planning of putting the early regs into a raffle for
> > > > a
> > > > > > prize. B-bucks sound better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > s-trongly h-edging
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> > > > > > > I could be swayed in either direction, but I think
> > > > the
> > > > > > > general "sway" was
> > > > > > > toward it being OK.<g>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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