No news really but this is what has happened. The Sheraton ws supposed to place a conference call to Rick, Larry and me. For some reason they couldn't do that (a hotel can't set u a conference call?) so we had Larry take the call. Larry and I spoke for about an hor before the call to discuss what we needed to insist on. Our main tack was to say that we'd accept a sliding scale on the meeting rooms (sliding scale based on room nights) but not guaranteeing any rooms. This way, whatever they want to cover their risk will be in one figure for one item, i.e., the meeting rooms. IF that number is acceptable to us, then we can negotiate, if not, then we'll carry on with other hotels an stop wasting time. How the call went. Larry explained our position and the hotel rep seemed very amenable, same as last time, but of course she can't actually agree to anything onthe holtel's behalf, so we'll see what they come back with to know if there's any point in continuing negotiations with them. And that's basically how Larry put it to them -- the basic structure of the deal they are offering is flat out unacceptable. Point: we won't guarantee anything that we have no control over, such as, for example, the number of roomnights that get sold. Point: We want to be able to bring in food and beverage to a private room for a hospitality room. She said that might be okay if the items are sealed packages -- there's no health code issues there if the food is commerically packaged. Health code compliance was their "reason" in the last proposal for why we couldn't bring in our own food and beverage. Larry did not say we would be willing to buy the stuff from the hotel (although we would if the price was reasonable) because to do so would have been to essentially admit we'd give in on bringing in our own stuff and we're not ready to give that up. Point: We also said we had to have a better schedule on the cancellation terms. He explained that AGA is non profit and a big rich corporation. I know that most folks think cancellation is not likely or impossible, stuff happens -- what if Amano is sick, blah blah. The potential liability has to be less than would bankrupt both organizations, AGA and GWAPA. Also, requiring payments 9 months before the event was unreasonable. He also asked what she knew about AGA and he explained that we're not rich, that we make no profit. Point: Force Majeure -- this has to be a two way street. She's supposed to get back to us with another proposal -- he asked her to have it typed up in MS Word so that we could track changes. That's about it. I think Larry is also going to try to talk to his contact at the Dallas Marriot to see if they can talk to the people at the Crystal Gateway Marriot. Btw, Rick expects proposals or draft contracts from the Marriot Crystal Gateway and two other hotels that he's been talking to and that Ghazanfar and he have visited. sh ===== S. Hieber - - - - - - - - Amano Returns to the AGA Annual Convention Nov 2004 -- Baltimore __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "incorp".