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Re: [AGA SC] [AGA Member] Re: The Aquarium Plant Handbook? (fwd)



All of what he sdays about Oriental is true -- however - I buy plants from
them about once a month through my Far East transshipper. What Robert also
failed to mentionm is that they cost about 1/3 of anything wholesale in the
states. You are getting what you pay for. Also, if you get their CURRENT
list they are in stock about 90%.
David
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:00 AM
Subject: [AGA SC] [AGA Member] Re: The Aquarium Plant Handbook? (fwd)


> Robert's treading that line a little thin, isn't he?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 01:23:10 -0800
> From: Robert H <robertph3@comcast.net>
> Reply-To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> Subject: [AGA Member] Re: The Aquarium Plant Handbook?
>
> >> I had no idea that the catalog was so well
> known. As I was reading the question and answer
> posted I had a spark occur and realized I have
> this catalog. Then I realized that this catalog is
> from The Oriental Aquarium not just some mail
> order place in Singapore.<<
>
> It is just a cagtalog. I have never quite understood the attraction of
this
> catalog to people outside the trade. People should also understand that it
> is full of plants that are not commonly available in the USA, and
importing
> them is difficult.  OA is challenging to work with.  I can give you a few
> ideas as to what's it like:
>
> a) for the most part you do not know what is available until the shipment
> arrives. If plants are missing from your shipment, then that means they
are
> not available.  You can re order the same plant for months and never get
it.
> There were a couple of cryps I ordered every two weeks for two years and
> never got. They finaly took them out of their catalog.
>
> b) The size of the plants can vary drastically.
>
> c) About a third of the plants in their catalog are not available, at
least
> they are not making them available to the USA, and several they have not
> even given prices to yet. Their price list is older than their current
> catalog.  Communication is very difficult.
>
> d) for those familiar with the Pets Warehouse lawsuit against fellow
> hobbyists... it all centered around PW importing plants from Oriental
> Aquarium.  All the complaints of plants being too small, mis labled,
> missing,  whatever was all due to the fact that they were just fowarding
the
> plants still in their original packaging from Oriental and were subject to
> the wims of Oriental Aquarium. (Of course this had nothing to do with all
> the other types of complaints against Pets Warehouse, but it was at the
core
> of what started a lot of the whole mess )
>
> Its a nice book. Just like the Tepoot book... pictures of many plants you
> may never actually get to have.  But they are still a great way to get the
> not so common plants, and the German hybrids. Eventually most of them
> trickle into the USA if you are patient enough.
>
> Robert Hudson
> www.aquabotanic.com
> Wet Thumb Forums with moderators
> Diana Walstad and Roger Miller
>
>
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