All of what he sdays about Oriental is true -- however - I buy plants from them about once a month through my Far East transshipper. What Robert also failed to mentionm is that they cost about 1/3 of anything wholesale in the states. You are getting what you pay for. Also, if you get their CURRENT list they are in stock about 90%. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: [AGA SC] [AGA Member] Re: The Aquarium Plant Handbook? (fwd) > Robert's treading that line a little thin, isn't he? > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 01:23:10 -0800 > From: Robert H <robertph3@comcast.net> > Reply-To: aga-member@thekrib.com > To: aga-member@thekrib.com > Subject: [AGA Member] Re: The Aquarium Plant Handbook? > > >> I had no idea that the catalog was so well > known. As I was reading the question and answer > posted I had a spark occur and realized I have > this catalog. Then I realized that this catalog is > from The Oriental Aquarium not just some mail > order place in Singapore.<< > > It is just a cagtalog. I have never quite understood the attraction of this > catalog to people outside the trade. People should also understand that it > is full of plants that are not commonly available in the USA, and importing > them is difficult. OA is challenging to work with. I can give you a few > ideas as to what's it like: > > a) for the most part you do not know what is available until the shipment > arrives. If plants are missing from your shipment, then that means they are > not available. You can re order the same plant for months and never get it. > There were a couple of cryps I ordered every two weeks for two years and > never got. They finaly took them out of their catalog. > > b) The size of the plants can vary drastically. > > c) About a third of the plants in their catalog are not available, at least > they are not making them available to the USA, and several they have not > even given prices to yet. Their price list is older than their current > catalog. Communication is very difficult. > > d) for those familiar with the Pets Warehouse lawsuit against fellow > hobbyists... it all centered around PW importing plants from Oriental > Aquarium. All the complaints of plants being too small, mis labled, > missing, whatever was all due to the fact that they were just fowarding the > plants still in their original packaging from Oriental and were subject to > the wims of Oriental Aquarium. (Of course this had nothing to do with all > the other types of complaints against Pets Warehouse, but it was at the core > of what started a lot of the whole mess ) > > Its a nice book. Just like the Tepoot book... pictures of many plants you > may never actually get to have. But they are still a great way to get the > not so common plants, and the German hybrids. Eventually most of them > trickle into the USA if you are patient enough. > > Robert Hudson > www.aquabotanic.com > Wet Thumb Forums with moderators > Diana Walstad and Roger Miller > > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com > with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of > this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/ > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc > When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "incorp". > > ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "incorp".