Re: [AGA SC] [AGA Member] Re: The Aquarium Plant Handbook? (fwd)

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

Reading closer, Robert P isn't even quite right on the
facts about PW and how it acted. Or is that what everyone
else saw right away?

I don't think it's a thin line anymore, I think it's
sleezy.

sh
--- David Lass <davidlass@villasunscape.com> wrote:
> All of what he sdays about Oriental is true -- however -
> I buy plants from
> them about once a month through my Far East transshipper.
> What Robert also
> failed to mentionm is that they cost about 1/3 of
> anything wholesale in the
> states. You are getting what you pay for. Also, if you
> get their CURRENT
> list they are in stock about 90%.
> David
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:00 AM
> Subject: [AGA SC] [AGA Member] Re: The Aquarium Plant
> Handbook? (fwd)
> 
> 
> > Robert's treading that line a little thin, isn't he?
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 01:23:10 -0800
> > From: Robert H <robertph3@comcast.net>
> > Reply-To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> > To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> > Subject: [AGA Member] Re: The Aquarium Plant Handbook?
> >
> > >> I had no idea that the catalog was so well
> > known. As I was reading the question and answer
> > posted I had a spark occur and realized I have
> > this catalog. Then I realized that this catalog is
> > from The Oriental Aquarium not just some mail
> > order place in Singapore.<<
> >
> > It is just a cagtalog. I have never quite understood
> the attraction of
> this
> > catalog to people outside the trade. People should also
> understand that it
> > is full of plants that are not commonly available in
> the USA, and
> importing
> > them is difficult.  OA is challenging to work with.  I
> can give you a few
> > ideas as to what's it like:
> >
> > a) for the most part you do not know what is available
> until the shipment
> > arrives. If plants are missing from your shipment, then
> that means they
> are
> > not available.  You can re order the same plant for
> months and never get
> it.
> > There were a couple of cryps I ordered every two weeks
> for two years and
> > never got. They finaly took them out of their catalog.
> >
> > b) The size of the plants can vary drastically.
> >
> > c) About a third of the plants in their catalog are not
> available, at
> least
> > they are not making them available to the USA, and
> several they have not
> > even given prices to yet. Their price list is older
> than their current
> > catalog.  Communication is very difficult.
> >
> > d) for those familiar with the Pets Warehouse lawsuit
> against fellow
> > hobbyists... it all centered around PW importing plants
> from Oriental
> > Aquarium.  All the complaints of plants being too
> small, mis labled,
> > missing,  whatever was all due to the fact that they
> were just fowarding
> the
> > plants still in their original packaging from Oriental
> and were subject to
> > the wims of Oriental Aquarium. (Of course this had
> nothing to do with all
> > the other types of complaints against Pets Warehouse,
> but it was at the
> core
> > of what started a lot of the whole mess )
> >
> > Its a nice book. Just like the Tepoot book... pictures
> of many plants you
> > may never actually get to have.  But they are still a
> great way to get the
> > not so common plants, and the German hybrids.
> Eventually most of them
> > trickle into the USA if you are patient enough.
> >
> > Robert Hudson
> > www.aquabotanic.com
> > Wet Thumb Forums with moderators
> > Diana Walstad and Roger Miller
> >
> >
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S. Hieber
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