I agree completely. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [AGA SC] Another perspective on the AGA "Forum" proposal > I dn't think freedom of speech enters into it since AGA is > not a government agency. We can restrict speech all we want > so long as we don't violate civil rights. We do it TAG all > the time -- restrict speech, that is. > > But the choice is either control and be comfortable with it > or give it free reign, as is done on APD (listmom does not > censor). Seems to me control is simply no practical. IN the > early days, it ight be, but if the forums were busy enough > to be worth continuing, the traffic would be high, too high > to preview and censor -- supposing we had people to do it. > > I don't ever see any way around the risk we're talking > about -- I don't see any way AGA would ever do forums. I'm > not making a recommendation; just drawing a conclusion. > > sh > > > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote: > > The trouble is, that we have time to read things slowly > > and carefully before > > printing them in TAG. We also have the "out" of not > > accepting an article, > > and just saying, "sorry, we don't have room", even if the > > real reason is > > that we don't like the quality/content of an article. > > > > Things move MUCH faster on a forum or mailing list. I > > don't think you'd > > have much traffic if every single message was sequestered > > to be checked by > > staff before being released to the public. That is, even > > if you have > > someone willing to read and edit every post. Then you > > also get into freedom > > of speech issues, I would think. > > > > Karen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> > > To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 6:27 AM > > Subject: Re: [AGA SC] Another perspective on the AGA > > "Forum" proposal > > > > > > > This begs a question that Erik has already hinted at. > > We do > > > not have this fear of speech re TAG. Everything is > > > previewed and edited so tht we are comfortable with the > > > content. Is this how, if we did forums, we would have > > to do > > > them? Is this how we need to manage the member mail > > list? > > > > > > sh > > > --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote: > > > > Agreed David!!! With all this talk, I'm worried that > > > > someone might just > > > > come by and sue us over something on our little > > e-mail > > > > list these days. > > > > Beleive me, Novak WOULD have if the AGA had gotten > > > > involved in the PSW > > > > case 3 years ago. It is quite fortunate, for > > instance, > > > > that I am > > > > officially not making any money off the video sales, > > but > > > > rather it is > > > > entirely going towards reimbursement for all the > > > > equipment I purchase... > > > > this is a point he tried to use against me in the > > > > lawsuit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > - - - - - - - - > > > AGA 2004 Annual Convention > > > Designing The Nature Aquarium -- demonstrated by > > Takashi Amano > > > Paludarium design -- Mike Senske > > > Planted Aquarium Ecology -- Diana Walstad > > > Cryptocorynes -- Jan D. Bastmeijer > > > Field Trip, workshops and more, Nov 12, 13 & 14; > > > Marriott Crystal Gateway, Arlington, VA, USA > > > Details & Registration at www.aquatic-gardeners.org & > > www.gwapa.org > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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