I'm still a little reluctant to guarantee to run it in every issue. I think that anything that people see every time they look at the magazine, they are going to tend to ignore anyway. What about twice a year? Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@wilstream.com> To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] [Fwd: AGA/sfbaaps cooperation] > Okay, so what about Jeff's idea of a running directory? It could be a > half-page to list all the Premium Clubs and their web sites. > > Cheryl > > Karen Randall wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Just back for the evening, then back to Maine in the AM. Haven't had time > > to read most of what's been going on yet, and won;t till I'm back for good > > Sat. night. (and realistically, it'll be a few days beyond that to catch up) > > > > This one did catch my eye, however. 1/2 page ads for each club annually > > might be problematic, particularly at our current page count, when we're > > struggling to make things fit as is. Considering the size of the organized > > hobby in the U.S., I don't think it's unrealistic to think we could EASILY > > have 20 clubs sign up to do this. (we have close to 20 clubs just in NEC, > > and most have a strong interest in planted tanks) That would be 10 pages > > per year, or 2 1/2 pages per issue, a LOT more "juggling" than with full > > year/one page ads, AND the headache of trying to get camera ready copy from > > each club in a timely manner. > > > > I'm not saying that I'm definitely against it, but this is a LOT of extra > > work. If we were able to add 4 pages (another sheet of paper) to the mag, I > > could be talked into it. <g> > > > > Karen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@wilstream.com> > > To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com> > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 7:08 PM > > Subject: [AGA-sc] [Fwd: AGA/sfbaaps cooperation] > > > > > > > >>Hi Y'all: > >> > >>Well, it seems my Premium Club & Group Discount proposals were more > >>confusing than I thought. I guess I'm a legend in my own mind! > >> > >>Jeff says that our offer of 10 free subscriptions to TAG, i.e. > >>"memberships" (shades of the previous conversation) is confusing. They get > >>all hung up on the Premium Club memberships vs the Group Discount > >>Memberships vs the 11 members of their club who are already AGA members? > >> > >>They want enough "subscriptions" to have an AGA membership for each of > >>their members. I realize that this number may change each quarter. > >> > >>Anyway, based on this ongoing conversation with sfbaaps and seeing the > >>validity of Jeff's point, I would like to revise the "benefits" of the > >>Premium Club Program thusly: > >> > >>-1 free AGA subscription for your club library > >>-A complete set of available back issues > >>-1 free AGA convention DVD > >>-A link to your club's web site on the AGA web site > >>-A on-time half-page ad in TAG for your club > >>-Premium Club discounts with sponsors and vendors when available > >>-Free promotional materials regarding the AGA, its convention, and the > >>aquascaping contest > >>-Support and promotion of your local club events from the AGA > >> > >>All for the low low price of $100 annually. (Would you cross the road for > > > > a > > > >>free marshmallow?) > >> > >>Furhtermore, as you will read below, Jeff has additional ideas that are > > > > not > > > >>without merit. > >> > >>What do y'all think? > >> > >>Cheryl > >> > >>-------- Original Message -------- > >>Subject: AGA/sfbaaps cooperation > >>Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 20:17:33 -0700 (PDT) > >>From: Jeff Kropp <jeff_kropp@yahoo.com> > >>To: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@wilstream.com> > >> > >>Cheryl, > >> > >>I've been mulling over our conversation... > >> > >>My original primary question was, "how can sfbaaps be > >>of assistance to the AGA?" Your premium group > >>membership plan was a reasonable proposal but didn't > >>anticipate our shared membership ratios. I think your > >>proposal has stalled because of our interpretation of > >>that offer – $16 group memberships and a $40 club fee. > >>As a result of this ongoing process I see a few parts > >>that are particularly appealing to the intrests of > >>sfbaaps: > >> > >>*An acknowledged vow of cooperation between local and > >>national organizations. > >>*possibility of sfbaaps representation in the AGA > >>decision making process. > >>*national club presence in TAG (perhaps a directory of > >>member clubs in every issue?) > >>*Reciprocal web links and other reciprocal promotions. > >>*club library of AGA published media. > >> > >>I might suggest, a revised club membership that > >>included only 1 TAG subscription and 1 conference DVD > >>for a club's library. Subscription of individual AGA > >>memberships could then follow the now existing > >>individual or group rate plans. If group membership > >>fufilled the above qualifications I think that we > >>could sell sfbaaps on perhaps a $100 annual fee? > >> > >>What do you think? > >>___ > >>Jeff > >> > >> > >> > >>__________________________________ > >>Do you Yahoo!? > >>Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! > >>http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Cheryl Rogers, Membership > >>Aquatic Gardeners Association > >>http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>AGA-sc mailing list > >>AGA-sc@thekrib.com > >>http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AGA-sc mailing list > > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > > > > > > -- > Cheryl Rogers, Membership > Aquatic Gardeners Association > http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org > > > _______________________________________________ > AGA-sc mailing list > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > _______________________________________________ AGA-sc mailing list AGA-sc@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc