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Re: [AGA-sc] RE AGA2K4 Final Budget



glad you are checking into it!

k

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, S. Hieber wrote:

I'm not clear yet on the revs and costs for the Banquet.
SOne of the rev figures in Ivo's sheet doesn't work out
mathematically -- he appears to overstate the Banquet
revenues ( 131*39=$5,109 not the reported $5,249).

Banqs actually cost $50.05 each including tax and
gratuituies. Recall that we charged $39 for the Banqs
instead of $49 and upped the reg fees $10 to compensate.
The diff between 131 banquets at a cost of -$50.05 each and
the dollar amount Ivo shows ($7,250.00) amounts a diff of
$693.45 or about 14 more banquets -- presumably comped
banqs.

Btw, in 2003 we comped banqs only for speakers and workshop
leaders and had 13 comped banquets. In 2003 Banq revs were
$2,905 and banq costs were -$3,430.36 -- a diff of
-$525.36.

I thought there were fewer this year -- I've asked Ivo to
explain the banquet numbers.

I'm guessing the banquet cost is just the amount on the
hotel bill and possibly no one checked if it was the right
number of meals and price OR they really had 14 comped
banquets. As for the banq revs--I think Ivo just erred in
the count or the price extension.


sh
--- Kathy Olson <kathy@thekrib.com> wrote:

as Erik and I have talked about,
how did we LOOSE MONEY at the banquet.  I thought they
had enough to break
even.  Sounds like the hotel got away with something, or
something went
really weird.  How do they explain that?

Kathy


On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, S. Hieber wrote:

Good question, but the way you asked it, I have to
answer,
"Yes" and "No." I didn't pay Tomoko, Ivo sent the check
to
her.

But the corrected Ivo numbers nclude the amounts paid
to
Tomoko and costs borne by AGA after the convention
including Ray.

The AGA amounts are included as deductions from the
final
disbursement according to the instructions I sent him.
The
I held back about $650 in AGA2K4 monies and the amounts
AGA
paid to Ray and for shipping costs incurred after the
convention were deducted from that amount. So we were
credited with holding back a smaller amount that $650.
In
Ivo's sheet this shows up as amount already disburesed
to
AGA.


--- Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@wilstream.com> wrote:

Does this include the convention expenses that you
paid
to Ray and Tomoko?

Cheryl

S. Hieber wrote:
Whle looking over Ivo's final report, I discovered an
error in recording the Rooms-Comped-by-the-Hotel that
required a change in some of the numbers.

First, expenses were overstated by $804.06, which
made
net
revenues appear understated by the same amount.

However, in investigating this error, Ivo reported
that
the
Auction revenue amount included the raffle and some
other
amounts such that it overstated auction sales by
about
$700.

After those changes, the net effect is that Ivo now
reports
the following:

Total Expenses   (20,066.55)

Total Revenues   $24,113.00

Total Net        $4,046.46
Amount to GWAPA  $2,023.23
Amount to AGA    $2,023.23

This amounts to an additional $26.03 due each club
compared
to the previously reported amount.

I can send a revised version of Ivo's finance sheet
if
anyone wants it but I'm making up my own and, of
course, I
suggest you wait (maybe a day) for that one.

sh






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