Re: [AGA-sc] Re: [AGA-conheads] More on Hotels, deadlines

[Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>]

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005, S. Hieber wrote:

> > Redirecting to AGA-SC after deciding no good can come
> > from posting this to
> > conheads.
>
> Well, that means we have a problem already, doesn't it?

Naw, it just means that chewing out Dave and Skids is not going to make 
the folks on that list feel any less animousity towards the AGA.  I think 
that most of the people working on the convention are good people, and 
most of the remaining people are "mostly good" people.


> Also, the Old Marines Home deal included meals, iirc -- but
> absolutely, you can't tell how much your shopping cart
> costs until you price out all the items in it. I tried to
> say that in a very nice and polite way on the Conheads
> list.

Thanks for that post -- it was very much appropriate and to the point.

Cheryl is right that Dave has a very selective memory on these things.  We 
all do.  We just have a nice archive.

Thing is, we didn't reject Dave's bid, as there WAS NO BID.  As far as I 
know, the Old Marines Home seemed pretty good.  Last I remember, Dave was 
saying something about a weekend the first week in January or something 
nearly as ridiculous, and all discussion vaporized.  I think he's 
directing his anger at SFBAAPS, which is also something no good can come 
of.  Hopefully they're all used to him and will just ignore him.




> The Proposal Requirements and Guidelines document says
> this:
>
> "Only proposals received no later than 9 months prior to
> the proposed start date of the Convention will be
> considered. We recommended that a draft proposal, including
> at least the names of the committee heads, anticipated
> location and date, and possible speakers, be submitted not
> later than 12 months before the proposed Convention start
> date."

I think that for next year (2007) we should change the language to either 
REQUIRE a draft November 1st of the previous year, with a preliminary 
hotel contract.

Just look at how Michael and SFBAAPS have interpreted our request for a 
draft... as though it's optional, and they don't need to submit anything 
until February 10th (or 18th).  No way.  We need to know in November if 
this club is going to deliver.

It's too late to do it for this year, but I really think we should fix up 
the docs as soon as the SFBAAPS thing is finalized (or not).

Comments?  Additions?  Counter-proposal?

  - Erik

PS: Larry, thanks for volunteering to help in the negotiation!

--
Erik Olson
erik at thekrib dot com
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