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[AGA-sc] SFBAAPS bid for the AGA 2006 A/V requirements... (fwd)
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- Subject: [AGA-sc] SFBAAPS bid for the AGA 2006 A/V requirements... (fwd)
- From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
- Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 20:39:01 -0800 (PST)
I thought I would share another impression from an SFBAAPS organizer on
how the bidding process is going.
My thoughts in next e-mail...
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 21:49:44 +0000
From: Michael Laflamme <spicolte@hotmail.com>
To: erik@thekrib.com
Subject: SFBAAPS bid for the AGA 2006 A/V requirements...
[the e-mail begins asking for any changes in A/V requirements as part of
firming up his budget -- snip]
Lastly, I have been on the conheads list reading the banter concerning our
convention. I will preface my comments below with the statement that I was
only added to the list a few months ago by Jim, so I may have missed some
earlier conversations. If so, and my comments have already been dealt with,
then I apologize.
Concerning your e-mail detailing your frustration with our bid. I understand
your frustrations and let me say that the SFBAAPS would be happy to place a
bid. However, before we can accomplish this, what we need from the AGA is a
Request for Bid outline. This would include all of your "must haves" and your
budget. If the AGA could provide us with a standard and customary Request for
Bid we could reply to it with our information and show your organization how
the SF bay area would be a wonderful place for this conference. We are happy to
do the work and outline how the project would proceed before you accept our
proposal but we cannot do so without knowing what you have for requirements. So
far, we seem to have only had bits and pieces of what is required, via the
e-mail correspondence to our questions.
By stating that we should look at other cities bids, are you implying that
these cities have provided for all of your requests? It seems to me that you
should cull from past meeting and conferences those must haves and budgets and
place them into a short Request for Bid and then allow us to respond. This is
the most efficient way to get what you want without spending countless time on
emails asking questions in order to project manage this task.
You mention spending time on the phone back and forth ironing out the details
of the last bid. If this was to clear up the fine details of the bid, I would
find that acceptable. But, if this was the process from the initial contact all
the way up until the bid was accepted, then time was wasted on both sides.
During my time in the Air Force, annual inspections were customary. However,
if a section failed an inspection, the blame was essentially their own. The
reason why was simple; The Air Force had detailed instructions and inspection
reports that allowed each section of each unit, each base, etc. to prepare and
pass an inspection because all the info needed was presented beforehand. What
would be inspected, what was acceptable/unacceptable, all guidelines and what
was needed to accomplish the goal. Essentially, the instructions to prepare
for and pass the inspection were handed to you months, even a year, before the
inspection.
These type of guidelines apply here as well. If we, or any other bid contender,
could receive a detailed list of what is needed to meet the needs of your
annual show, then we only need to fill in the blanks and present you with our
bid. This would also benefit the AGA, as it would make it much easier for other
local groups to put a bid package together, and then the AGA would have several
locations to choose from; all the while feeling confident that all the areas
where covered. Local groups wouldn't need to continually bother the AGA folks
over all the details, except the fine details after the bid was submitted and
accepted. Perhaps many local clubs are intimidated, and don't wish to make a
bid because they have no idea what is needed, what it entails, etc. If you had
a standard Request for Bid that you issued every year to all local clubs, you
would only have to sit back and what for the bids to come in. Less work, and
e-mail chatter for everyone involved. Plus...more clubs making a bid. A
win/win all around.
Last year during our last bid attempt, I contacted you concerning our
audio/visual needs, as I am again.. What you sent me (below) was a concise,
detailed list of everything that was needed. This is making my task much
simpler, since I know what you need, and what I need to obtain. This is exactly
what I am asking for the AGA to provide to us now.
Thanks for your time and help Erik.
Best Regards,
Michael Laflamme
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