After wrting my previous post, as well as Larry's and Erik's. . .Well, I simply don't know what would be best. On the one hand I think SF and GWAPA are more the norm and DFWAPC was a special case. It's not a question of lead time, or documents, or sharing financial liabilities. Irrespective of those things, the problems are fundamental and still present -- lack of leadership skills, personnel resources, or relevent experience or all three. So this is what local-hosting is like and either we get used to it or . . . or maybe we might be better off doing it ourselves each year or every other year. Otoh, what about the reasons we had for want a local club to host and not do it ourselves year after year? Uh, this predates my AGA existence, but I was around a bit of this. Do we have the personel to do this every or every other year? Also, wasn't local-hosting supposed to be part of AGA reaching out and getting others in involved? If so, is that working, or not? Maybe we could get a local club or clubs to cohost with AGA, for some portion net revenues, if any, or a fixed fee for a specific piece or pieces of the labor? Maybe we need to shop around to clubs with convention experience. Or maybe we need to start believing more in the current process. "Alice laughed, "There's no use trying," she said, "one can't believe impossible things." "I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." sh _______________________________________________ AGA-sc mailing list AGA-sc@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc