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[AGA-sc] still more from Tom
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 22:26:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Thomas Barr <tcbiii@yahoo.com>
To: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
Subject: Re: Did you get my e-mail?
Yes, I understand the speaker payment deal.
I try to minimize all but one.
The problem is that the budget doesn't allow for all four
speakers to be
paid for, only one or two. So we might get two guys from
overseas paid,
but only one if they required a translator (like Amano).
Yes, that makes things very tough!
Dave has neat photos, natural habitat eye candy and less in the
scaping area. And he's new and different. And he'll bring
several new species:)
You know, Wim was actually my favorite speaker in 2001 as
well. Very much
underappreciated with all the Amano-mania, but I found it a
nice contrast.
I wonder where he is nowadays.
He was up in the Chicago area, ask Karen or whoever got him, he
knows scaping and he knows physiology.
You might consider getting him back.
Know anyone local who does photography of aquascapes? Not
like the usual
"stick a camera on a tripod and take the picture" types, but
someone who's
spent some time to compose, maybe knows how to use flash
units, etc?
Erik, and a few other members are good. Myself as well. I use
flashes and have a series of colored background sheets I am now
using now. I'm trying not to over do Erik though, I'm not sure,
with all the new folks, we are bound to have someone.
Someone who's entered Amano's contest or taken shots of tanks
who did?
Oh, well now you are talking, there are several folks.
We were thinking of having someone like that, perhaps Jeff
Senske, do a
photo workshop live (rather than the usual talk where everyone
falls
asleep watching powerpoint slides doling out the technical
advice).
Yes, those are boring after the first 3-4:)
You learn by doing, not as a passive participant.
We
could have some actual tanks set up for this purpose.
And we shall.
We could set up the scaping like American idol, we even have
Jeff Kropp, the Simon of the group:)
Regards,
Tom Barr
- Erik
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, Thomas Barr wrote:
Dave's already agreed to come if asked.
Ole would be great, several professionals will come to hear
him
and join for that alone. I'm afraid Claus is out, Wim is
still
my favorite speaker thus far. Well, besides you:)
I think it's wise to have the AGA do this from here on, the
potential for miscommunication is greatly reduced. Then you
know
what and when and can plan this.
The simpler the better.
Our club has grown rapidly due to this simpler method.
Interestingly, we might hit 200 members at some point in the
next few months at this rate.
Not bad for a local plant club.
Anyhow, kick some names around the hat.
We have a number of members that can do various talks.
Erik Leung would be good for scaping. So would Luis Navarro.
You might russle them into the fray to give a
talk/demostration
for new and old timers.
Thing is, seeing someone do a nice scape inspires those that
have been sitting on the pot too long to give a new scape a
try.
Roland owns www.GreenChapter.com
Rare plant vendor in Singapore.
He gets some crazy Crypts, one of which I've been after for
nearly 25 years. It'll be coming in a week or 2.
Folk's off the beaten path......well, there are some in
FL(Mike
Kane, he does lots of ornamental aquatic plant tissue
culture,
we might resurrect George Booth:)
Rhonda Wilson perhaps, she has been big on more relaxed non
CO2
methods, my self, I'll take whatever anyone else don't want.
The plant auction will be scary here though.
We have so many plants locally these days and it seems we
simply
have so many plant growers here, the variety at the swaps is
simply staggering sometimes.
Jim is a super nice guy, Mike is also, but comes off hot
headed
on email. But I don't know anyone like that now do I? haha
Hope this helps,
Tom Barr
You might ask Jan about Dutch folks also.
--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
I'm more interested in local folks that are off the beaten
path for
some of the other talks (which is why I e-mailed you -- you
know some
people that you don't find on Forums or in aquatic plant
clubs).
Who's Rolan? I'm out of the loop in the hobby these days!
I have no doubt we'll get good attendence by members...
just
wished we'd
have a few more of them eager to do actual work. Oh well.
We've learned
our lesson, and starting in 2007 all AGA conventions are
going
to be
AGA-organized.
- Erik
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, Thomas Barr wrote:
Hi,
I offered to do it and sent the space cadets the list.
Jeese......
I'll see if I might dig it up.
Main thing is getting folks that will cause folks to come
to
the
meeting. I really liked Wim's talk, he'd be good.
Claus is good, Dave Wilson from Oz has a lot of nice
Australian
plant pics. Thiongs we have only recently seen, he has a
nursery
there and collects and has many pics of new stuff.
There are not a lot of new folks out there that will draw
folks.
Dennerle/Windlov perhaps, not sure though.......
Rolan from SG might be an idea also, he has a lot of
Crypts
and
other rare plants/pics.
I'm not sure about politics, but I had no issue giving the
steering committee post to Bill H. I've done a great deal
in
the
last 2 years to get the club going again, so have others,
Bill
redid the web site which was key, I brought in many new
members.
Just means I can do a different job someone will not want
or
cannot do.
We nabbed another dozen new folks for the SFBAAPS club
this
last
month and 1/2.
I'll hunt the list down and see if I have it archived
somewheres.
Tom Barr
--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
I was looking for info on convention speakers. Summary:
SFBAAPS doesn't
have a volunteer to work on coordination, so AGA is going
to
do it
instead. Remembered you sent a nice list of proposed
local
speakers,
wondering what happened and if you'd have a little time
to
talk about
ideas. That's all!
- Erik
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, Thomas Barr wrote:
Errr.......maybe it got buried or something?
I'll look
Regards,
Tom Barr
--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
Just wondering if you read my e-mail from earlier this
week...
was
thinking you might be real busy, but saw you posted on
APD...
Just a
quick reply would be cool. Thanks!
- Erik
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