Re: [AGA-sc] Speaking of speakers

[Larry Lampert <l_lampert@yahoo.com>]

Just a couple of quick comments, First we only have
two rooms, one of which is the vendor room. Neither of
these rooms is large enough for more than one talk so
I don't see how we can do more than two simaltaneous
workshops.

Second, Four speakers may be OK but four talks is not.
I would be pretty disappointed if I spent the better
part of $1000 to fly to California to hear four talks.
I also think we need a talk on Fri night. 

I really am not sure people want to hear a few local
clubs come up and say something about their club in a
"What did I do on my 3rd grade summer vacation" style.

Third , we have still not figured out where and what
they are planning for their hospitality room socialize
thing on ri. We had discussed doint it in the vendor
room but we have not addressed the issues of cost of
hotel provided food and beverage. 

I still need direction on this b4 I can finish the
agreement with the Hotel.

Thanks,
Larry

Larry

--- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:

> > Who is "Wim?"
> 
> I can't remember his last name... spoke in
> Chattanooga the same year Tom 
> did.  He was good... spoke of Dutch type aquarium
> design, and how that 
> relates to other forms of art in terms of design
> principles.
> 
> > Luis is wonderful but we've had Luis doing design
> before. It would nice to 
> > have someone else for the variety.
> 
> Luis is fine in a workshop or small group setting. 
> I don't think he has 
> developed the demeanor to pull off a feature talk
> yet.  He has the knowledge 
> and skills, but he is too soft spoken and
> self-effacing.
> 
> > I don't think GB went over as well as a speaker in
> Dallas as some of us 
> > had anticipated.
> 
> I like George, but as a speaker he was a flop.  His
> photos were poor quality 
> and his information dated.
> 
> > We're still thinking a total of 4 speakers, as SF
> had planned?
> 
> I don't know what we were thinking... that's what
> the SF folks had proposed.
> 
> > I'd like to see a round of workshops as we've done
> before
> 
> I like the idea of workshop/break-out groups as long
> as the schedule isn't 
> so intense that people get run ragged.  AND don't
> get to spend time in the 
> vendor's Og course, one way around that would be to
> actually USE the 
> vendor's room for some break-out groups.room.
> 
> > and for those:
> >
> > Here's my list of the folks mentioned and the
> potential -- what am I 
> > missing:
> >
> > Dave Wilson -- Yes (and will accept)
> 
> I've got Gary Lange checking into whether Dave
> Wilson is a good speaker or 
> not... we know he can write and we know he takes
> good photos and knows his 
> material.  But it would also be nice to see if he's
> got a reputation for 
> putting together good talks if we are going to
> import him at high cost.
> 
> > Ole Pederson -- Yes (might accept)
> > Troels Andersen -- Yes (might accept)
> 
> Any of these people s/b featured speakers, not
> workshop/ break-out speakers
> 
> > Dorothy Reimer -- Yes (might accept)
> > Jeff Senske -- Yes (on Photog) (might accept --
> has a book coming out)
> 
> Could be either featured speaker or workshop. 
> Dorothy's style is so 
> hands-on that it would be perfect for a smaller
> group. (I know she would 
> have concerns about having the proper plants
> available for her to do her 
> thing, but I'm sure we could supply them from within
> the U.S. so she doesn't 
> need to worry about bringing plants with her) Both
> are experienced speakers 
> that we know will deliver the goods.
> 
> > Dr. Tan Cheng Mong (too expensive unless we can
> confirm speaking 
> > qualifications)
> > Mr. Seah Ming Cheun (too expensive unless we can
> confirm speaking 
> > qualifications)
> > Loh Kwek Leong (his first love is killies and too
> expensive unless we can 
> > confirm speaking qualifications)
> 
> I agree
> 
> > Workshops
> > Erik Leung (aquascaping) (might accept)
> > Rhonda Wilson (non-CO2 or slow growth tanks)
> (might accept)
> > TBarr (he was made for workshops) (if you comp him
> he will come)
> 
> All the above would be fine for workshops only, not
> major talks.
> 
> > If we do an Aquascaping Race (the so-called Iron
> [Chef] Aqauscaping), I'd 
> > just as soon names were drawn from a hat of
> volunteers, but then, frankly, 
> > I don't understand the point of competing to
> finish an aquscape within a 
> > very limited amount of time? What has the rush to
> do with anything? Seems 
> > like mindless sport, otoh, mindless sports are
> very popular so maybe 
> > that's a reason for doing it -- like Tshirts, no
> one really *needs* one 
> > ;-)
> 
> It's not anything I have much interest in, and it
> sounds like a HUGE amount 
> of work to orchestrate. (think what it took to get
> all the 
> supplies/equipment in place for Amano's demos) but
> if lots of people like 
> the idea, it doesn't hurt to give it a try.  I
> agree, however, that you have 
> to find some even handed way of choosing who will
> actually participate.
> 
> Karen 
> 
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