Re: [AGA-sc] Speakers and Aquascaping Demos

[Larry Lampert <l_lampert@yahoo.com>]

No worries I understood what you meant. The Senskes
have been used a lot by us but it will have been two
years f/ Jeff and four since Mike talked when AGA2k8
rolls around. 

Thanks for the offer, I really appreciate it. I
actually thought about trying to get together with you
but I could not figure out the logistics. 

I am in downtown for the On-Demand AIM show. No car
and I have been kept busy after hours with work.
However I will be back in Boston in June so maybe we
can get together then.


Regards,
Larry

--- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:

> Just to be clear, I don't have a bad opinion of the
> Senskes at all.  I like
> them both very much.  But we haven't had ANY speaker
> (including Amano,
> Claus, Christel or Ole) with the (recent) frequency
> of the Senskes.  It
> doesn't matter how good (or not good) they are, when
> you have the same
> speaker too often, it gets old.
> 
> BTW, I'm only about 45 min from down town.  So if
> you have a car and time
> for a visit, I'd love to invite you for dinner!
> 
> Karen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aga-sc-bounces@thekrib.com
> [mailto:aga-sc-bounces@thekrib.com] On
> Behalf Of Larry Lampert
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:08 AM
> To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board
> Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Speakers and Aquascaping Demos
> 
> Hey Guys,
> 
> Sorry I am late on this but I have just caught up on
> emails. I am in Boston at a trade show all week so
> it
> maybe difficult to get me by email.
> 
> I have only a minute so I am going to be brief....
> 
> Jeff and/or Mike can talk we can decide who.
> Regardless of what our opinions are about them
> personally they are well known and folks enjoy
> hearing
> them. 
> 
> The Iron Aquascaper is an offer we can either,
> accept,
> turn it down, or propose a counteroffer.
> If we do it I would prefer to do the Iwagumi- I
> don't
> think it matters to much that it is a rip off of
> ADA's
> idea ;-)   
> 
> 
> We have time to figure this out without everyone
> getting upset about things yet. Please save that for
> a
> week or two out when someone cancels on us and we
> have
> no time to backfill ;-).
> 
> As far as scheduling Karen has already done what I
> suggested earlierwhich is to first ask Amano and
> then
> schedule aroundhis time preferences. 
> 
> I have a call with  Seachem scheduled for this
> morning. I will give a report tonight. This may help
> answer some questions. I would like  to table
> Karen's
> vote until then.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> 
> > OK guys, we don't need people to start lurking. 
> We
> > need to discuss this,
> > (and that means EVERYONE, particularly those who
> > have not yet expressed an
> > opinion) make a decision and then get back to
> work. 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > So far, it looks like we've got Larry and Scott
> for
> > doing IA, and Karen and
> > Erik against.  If it takes doing it by a vote, I
> > make the following motions:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 1.  I move that we NOT hold the IA competition this
> > year, thank Jeff
> > very much for his offer of organizing it, and ask
> > for a rain check for the
> > next convention. (avoiding ruffled feathers by
> > pointing out that we don't
> > want to rain on Amano's parade)
> > 2.  I move that we set up two or three (10 gallon?)
> > tanks with sand and
> > nice rocks in the vendor room for people to play
> > with during the convention.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Karen
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > From: aga-sc-bounces@thekrib.com
> > [mailto:aga-sc-bounces@thekrib.com] On
> > Behalf Of S. Hieber
> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:06 PM
> > To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Speakers and Aquascaping
> Demos
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I did not think that holding diff points the view
> > and discussing them was
> > seen as insisting on something.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I'll ratchet back. Althought, we might all end up
> > lurking.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > sh
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> > To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board
> > <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 7:17:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Speakers and Aquascaping
> Demos
> > 
> > Notwithstanding what Scott said off-list, I get a
> > "this is what we're 
> > gonna do" vibe coming from him, and to a lesser
> > extent, Larry. It feels 
> > like my input is being ignored, and it has
> certainly
> > made me reconsider 
> > how much energy I wish to put into the planning of
> > the event.  It's 
> > especially maddening after the many many months of
> > being asked for input 
> > on the hotel contract (areas which I feel
> massively
> > NOT qualified to help 
> > out on)... then suddenly to be presented with
> > "here's who we're asking to 
> > speak, and we're going to do Iron Aquascaper, and
> a
> > demo", etc, in the 
> > areas which I *am* qualified to give opinions.
> > 
> > I will rehash what I have mostly stated on
> conheads,
> > in a more concise 
> > format.  Then I will go back to lurking:
> > 
> > 1. I agree with Karen 100% that Iron Aquascaper +
> > Amano Demo = Too Much. 
> > We have to get double plants, more tanks, more
> wet,
> > more clean-up. 
> > Remember also that these events take TWO HOURS
> EACH.
> >  That's a lot of 
> > sitting around waiting for things to happen.
> > 
> > 2. Something easy to set up, on *Friday* night,
> such
> > as a hardscape-only 
> > challenge or workshop, seems both doable and
> > exciting to me, especially if 
> > it had a nice lead-in.
> > 
> > 3. Mike spoke in 2004, Jeff spoke in 2006
> > (photography) AND at NEC last 
> > year.  They're very good to the AGA, but we might
> be
> > in Senske overload. 
> > I don't remember Jeff's talk in 2006, other than
> > half of it was in 
> > Photoshop.  I should go back and look at the DVD.
> > 
> > 4. We need to have something good for the banquet,
> > 'cause aquascaping 
> > contest awards alone won't cut it anymore.
> 
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