Re: [AGA-sc] Speakers and Aquascaping Demos

[Larry Lampert <l_lampert@yahoo.com>]

Hey Everyone,

I spoke with Jim at Seachem today. He and I talked
about several possibilities:

1) We talked about a tour of Seachem - He said it is
about an hour and twenty minutes away but that they
would be open to it.

2)He is going to ask Greg if he will speak. He also
mentioned Dr.Batton but I told him that he has already
spoke. He may be fine for a tour if we decide to do
it. I really want Greg to talk and I told Jim that it
would be great if he could do it.

3) I asked him to look into the Georgia Aquarium tour.
It will take him a few days to get back to us on this.
This is key!

Unfortunetly this does not answer all of our questions
but it gets us closer.

For the record I am not really for, or against for
that matter, us doing the Iron Iwagumi (dry-only)
Challenge. I am more ambivalent. If our members our
for it then so am I if not then I am fine thanking ADG
and moving on.

It appears that the board is 3 against (Erik, Karen,
Dorothy) and 2 (Larry, Scott) marginally for it.
Anyone else care to vote? I am ready to put this and
myself to bed :-).

Remember we are voting on whether or not we will do a
no plants no water iwagumi challenge with 60cm tanks.
I am not sure that putting a couple of 10 gallon tanks
with rocks and sand in the vendor room for folks to
play with is going to be any less work, but the time
issue (set-up) as mentioned below is still there.


Thanks,

Larry

 

--- Larry Lampert <l_lampert@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hey Guys,
> 
> Sorry I am late on this but I have just caught up on
> emails. I am in Boston at a trade show all week so
> it
> maybe difficult to get me by email.
> 
> I have only a minute so I am going to be brief....
> 
> Jeff and/or Mike can talk we can decide who.
> Regardless of what our opinions are about them
> personally they are well known and folks enjoy
> hearing
> them. 
> 
> The Iron Aquascaper is an offer we can either,
> accept,
> turn it down, or propose a counteroffer.
> If we do it I would prefer to do the Iwagumi- I
> don't
> think it matters to much that it is a rip off of
> ADA's
> idea ;-)   
> 
> 
> We have time to figure this out without everyone
> getting upset about things yet. Please save that for
> a
> week or two out when someone cancels on us and we
> have
> no time to backfill ;-).
> 
> As far as scheduling Karen has already done what I
> suggested earlierwhich is to first ask Amano and
> then
> schedule aroundhis time preferences. 
> 
> I have a call with  Seachem scheduled for this
> morning. I will give a report tonight. This may help
> answer some questions. I would like  to table
> Karen's
> vote until then.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> 
> > OK guys, we don't need people to start lurking. 
> We
> > need to discuss this,
> > (and that means EVERYONE, particularly those who
> > have not yet expressed an
> > opinion) make a decision and then get back to
> work. 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > So far, it looks like we've got Larry and Scott
> for
> > doing IA, and Karen and
> > Erik against.  If it takes doing it by a vote, I
> > make the following motions:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 1.  I move that we NOT hold the IA competition this
> > year, thank Jeff
> > very much for his offer of organizing it, and ask
> > for a rain check for the
> > next convention. (avoiding ruffled feathers by
> > pointing out that we don't
> > want to rain on Amano's parade)
> > 2.  I move that we set up two or three (10 gallon?)
> > tanks with sand and
> > nice rocks in the vendor room for people to play
> > with during the convention.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Karen
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > From: aga-sc-bounces@thekrib.com
> > [mailto:aga-sc-bounces@thekrib.com] On
> > Behalf Of S. Hieber
> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:06 PM
> > To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Speakers and Aquascaping
> Demos
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I did not think that holding diff points the view
> > and discussing them was
> > seen as insisting on something.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I'll ratchet back. Althought, we might all end up
> > lurking.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > sh
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> > To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board
> > <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 7:17:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Speakers and Aquascaping
> Demos
> > 
> > Notwithstanding what Scott said off-list, I get a
> > "this is what we're 
> > gonna do" vibe coming from him, and to a lesser
> > extent, Larry. It feels 
> > like my input is being ignored, and it has
> certainly
> > made me reconsider 
> > how much energy I wish to put into the planning of
> > the event.  It's 
> > especially maddening after the many many months of
> > being asked for input 
> > on the hotel contract (areas which I feel
> massively
> > NOT qualified to help 
> > out on)... then suddenly to be presented with
> > "here's who we're asking to 
> > speak, and we're going to do Iron Aquascaper, and
> a
> > demo", etc, in the 
> > areas which I *am* qualified to give opinions.
> > 
> > I will rehash what I have mostly stated on
> conheads,
> > in a more concise 
> > format.  Then I will go back to lurking:
> > 
> > 1. I agree with Karen 100% that Iron Aquascaper +
> > Amano Demo = Too Much. 
> > We have to get double plants, more tanks, more
> wet,
> > more clean-up. 
> > Remember also that these events take TWO HOURS
> EACH.
> >  That's a lot of 
> > sitting around waiting for things to happen.
> > 
> > 2. Something easy to set up, on *Friday* night,
> such
> > as a hardscape-only 
> > challenge or workshop, seems both doable and
> > exciting to me, especially if 
> > it had a nice lead-in.
> > 
> > 3. Mike spoke in 2004, Jeff spoke in 2006
> > (photography) AND at NEC last 
> > year.  They're very good to the AGA, but we might
> be
> > in Senske overload. 
> > I don't remember Jeff's talk in 2006, other than
> > half of it was in 
> > Photoshop.  I should go back and look at the DVD.
> > 
> > 4. We need to have something good for the banquet,
> > 'cause aquascaping 
> > contest awards alone won't cut it anymore.
> > 
> > 5. Karen, you left out Dr. Tan, confirmed right?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Now, maybe there is a possibility of killing two
> > birds with one stone 
> > here.  What is Jeff (or Mike's) topic?  Maybe they
> > could be persuaded to 
> > do a sort of "pro aquascaping with easy plants",
> as
> > that tends to be 
> > something they excel at for some of their client
> > installations.  Maybe 
> > that would cover some of the 'basics' we are
> > currently missing.
> > 
> > Back to lurk now.
> > 
> >   - Erik
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Karen Randall wrote:
> > 
> 
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