Dear Mike, I have tried the formula of Helen Burns and when I started this treatment, the Rams stopped dying. I have atleast 2 that dies everyday since I have started to put Metronidazole in the water. What do you this is happening now? Thanks, Edison ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!