I have to back Helen on the wet blanket approach. It's not that the list wishes to be narrow, but there's a lot of general info on East African Lake cichlids, and it can be very hard to get info on South American or West African dwarf species. It goes with how hard it is to get these fish in a lot of places. I imagine it must be frustrating for a lot of hobbyists on the list to see it isn't about dwarf cichlids from everywhere. It's been an eye-opener to see new names jumping into this thread. At the same time though, this list exists to discuss one group of cichlids. It's not a snob thing because they're rare, it's a result of there being few places where one can discuss and learn about these creatures. I think the list has to remain specialized and get away from 'off topic' fish. I Promise I won't ask about the Russian guy's Discus any more if everyone else takes the Tanganyika thread to a Tanganyika list... :-) -Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!