Hi all,I am going to look at some mixed apistos out of Brazil this afternoon and was wondering if anyone would know what I was likely to see.Also some ortmanni.I have seen the ortmanni listed before,but have yet to see the real thing.What would they likely be?Steindachneri or hippolytae? Vern ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!