The A.ortmanni I've seen here in the UK have definately been A.steindachneri. Ken. -----Original Message----- From: Vern Wensley [mailto:vernwen@home.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 22:57 To: apisto Subject: mixed apistos Hi all,I am going to look at some mixed apistos out of Brazil this afternoon and was wondering if anyone would know what I was likely to see.Also some ortmanni.I have seen the ortmanni listed before,but have yet to see the real thing.What would they likely be?Steindachneri or hippolytae? Vern ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!