In a message dated 1/16/00 10:13:01 PM, you wrote: <<I've got a question for anyone. I have an empty 55 gallon tank at the moment and wanted to set it up heavily planted with lots of natural caves out of rocks and driftwood. What I wanted to do was put some small tetras or killies in there along with a few different species of apistos. Has anyone ever had any luck with a non breeding community tank of apistos without having major casualties due to males fighting over territory. I thought maybe a nice pair of Cacatuoides, a pair or trio of Aggies and my group of Cruzis. Plus maybe some small corys and of course my tetra and killies. I don't care if the fish in there never spawn or not. >> I've mixed a few species in a 25H with lots of plants and bogwood. A pair of aggies and a pair of bitaeniatas did fine together, although it was clear that the male aggie was king. The aggies spawned once. I mixed and matched and eventually ended up with a pair of norberti in there, too. They became the eventual king and queen. Toward the end I had a male bitaeniata and the norberti. They really 'hated' him and he eventually became nutrients for the plants because I couldn't get him out from the jungle. I think that the different species did best when both males and females were present. Lars ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!