Ok, I'm stumped. I've had a planted community tank set up in my living room for about two years now. It's a healthy environment -- or at least, it seems to be for the plants and for certain fish. But I just can't keep cichlids or labyrinth fish. I don't lose the fish when they're first introduced, but in spurts, usually after several months. The latest round included three juvenile angelfish, purchased about two months ago (there are still two surviving quite happily in the tank, no symptoms at all), and three honey dwarf gouramis (one is still surviving happily). All of these fish have died within the last two weeks, although I haven't lost a single cardinal tetra. I've experienced four or five similar plagues in the past, the common thread being that I get a substantial drop-off, over a few weeks, or labyrinth fish, cichlids and catfish, but there is no loss of cardinal tetras or harlequin rasboras (the last time it happened I lost a few tetras, but they were at the end of the plague and I attribute it to water quality because of the decaying fish that I couldn't find in the plant jungle). Symptoms have varied, meaning that sometimes I get skin lesions on the labyrinth fish, or dropsy or emaciation in the dwarf cichlids, or gasping at the surface from angelfish. Most of the time, though, a fish that appears healthy in the afternoon is found dead later in the evening. I've heard it suggested that perhaps the fish are building up heavy metal deposits from my tap water. I've also heard it suggested that I might have some kind of a "bug" in my water that afflicts certain types of fish preferentially. I'm willing to accept poor husbandry as an explanation, because I'm not the most conscientious aquarium keeper and it's been a very long time since I've tested the nitrates/pH, but it seems to happen when my plants are growing well and I've been maintaining the tank regularly. Perhaps that's the problem? A skin cream or deodorant that could affect certain fish and not others? I just can't figure out what might affect cichlids, labyrinth fish and the occasional catfish, but not affect the cardinal tetras or harlequin rasboras. Alysoun McLaughlin Wheaton, MD ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!