Here is a barrage of questions concerning the Anerobic substrate issue... Is an anerobic substrate caused by undergravel filters, or just enhanced by it? Is there a best way to avoid this occurance? Do plants help prevent or contribute to an anerobic situation? Is this why alot of you use foam filters in your tanks instead of undergravel? Phil Eaton Dallas, TX ----Original Message Follows---- From: Doug Dunlop <baddog@telusplanet.net> My vote would have to go to anaerobic substrate. I have had similar outbreaks in the past where suddenly, a dozen or more fish (in my case ancistrus) are found dead while cardinal tetras are happily swimming about. My theory is (and it is only a theory) that pockets of hydrogen sulphide and possibly methane formed in the substrate. <---snip---> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!