Re: A. sp. Wangenflecken??

["Scott Olson" <olson7@hotmail.com>]

Thanks Vinny, Mike and all.

(Heavy, heavy sigh!)  So it sounds like my cool little fish may be a 
hybrid...I hope not!  Since you were able to breed them, Vinny, I'll keep 
hoping that they are a true species (many hybrids are sterile, or nearly so) 
- it sounds like Kozlowski thinks so!  I'll keep hoping that some Singaprean 
or Czechoslovakian breeder is pumping out a lot of little fishies and 
selling only males.

The first apistos I bred were A. caetei, and I had what I think were true 
resticulosa a few years ago.  Nice fish, both.  One very noticeable quality 
of the caetei was the pronounced lessening of color - both blue/green and 
rusty red - on the head of males of succeeding generations.  Even the f1 
males (like the male pictured in Linke and Staeck)were a lot less colorful 
than their wild-caught fathers  - and way less colorful than the 
'wangenflecken' I have now.

The wangenflecken has several characteristics (or lack thereof) that I think 
may separate it from either species.  These are:

Blue reticulation up the forehead and extending up to the dorsal fin.

No sub-lateral line diagonal black striping on the 'wangenflecken' - in any 
mood, at least that I have seen.

The metallic reticulation is undeniably BLUE.  Not blue-green as I think I 
remember on caetei and the cf. resticulosa that I had.  Same for metallic 
sheen on body scales.

Oh, well, enough for now.  I'm torn between hoping for the best (that this 
is a valid species, or form of caetei or resticulosa) or at worst a 
captive-bred variety, and disappointment that it may be just a hybrid.

(Heavy, heavy sigh)

Thanks again!

Scott


>From: "V Kutty" <kutty@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com
>To: <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com>
>Subject: Re: A. sp. Wangenflecken??
>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:14:22 -0800
>
>Mike,
>You can take my pike IDs to the bank but NOT my Apisto IDs.   Actually, you
>did help me with the ID of this fish back in May 99.   This is what you had
>to say:
>
>"Your photo of A. cf. resticulosa is very unusual. It looks like a male of
>the resticulosa-complex, but it appears to have extensions on the top and
>bottom of the caudal fin! I know of no regani-group species with such a
>tail! The head looks very much like that of A. sp. Blaukopf (Blue-head)
>found in the Mayland & Bork book. They list it as a domestic form of A.
>caetei. Both your fish and A. sp. Blaukopf look  very much like the same
>fish listed in a Japanese book (Aquarium 2300 Atlas) as A. sp. New Blue. 
>The
>author claims it is a cross between A. caetei & A. resticulosa. I think 
>this
>is what you have."
>
>
>In August 99, Ingo Koslowski wanted some pictures and we started talking
>Apistos and this is what he had to say:
>...and your cf.resticulosa seems to be the fish called Wangenflecken-Ap. in
>the german hobby (several times misidentified as A.resticulosa). It comes
>from the Ilha de Marajo at the mouth of the
>Amazon.
>
>Mike, I will add your comments to the web page tonight.
>
>Vinny
>
>(http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/5491/resticulosa.html) that he
>
>
>
>
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