Regarding the names most of the stores label their fish as: I am very good friend with a large local store. They have almost 400 retail tanks and more than that in the basement for the wholesale plus 20 or so "kiddie pools" of plants. I often get to see the fish list from wholesale suppliers and trans-shippers from SA and almost 90% of the Apisto's are listed as A. agassizi or A. borelli. When I go back to see the fish upon delivery they are most always some other species of Apisto along with the Agassizi and Borelli. That's how the big chain stores must receive them but then are unable to label them correctly. It's much easier for collectors in SA to label them Agassizi instead of taking the time to sort them out when there may be a half dozen different species being dumped into the same holding vat at the shipping location. Maybe I'm wrong about this but it could be at least one answer regarding those names. Z-Man ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!