Hi Don, In the room where my tank is standing there's absolutely no light during the night. But early in the morning (still dark outside) and hours before my aquarium lights are switched on I open my "window-protection" (sorry, don't know the English word for that) so that the shock from dark to light is not to sudden. So I must stress that (to my surprise) my fish really spawned in absolute darkness! Reacting to the issue of the colour of eggs. The previous eggs of this couple were coral-red and fertile (I had the luck to see some of the fry for a short time before the last ones were eaten by the male), the eggs my fish have now look more pink but they look fertile because they tend to become a bit darker after three days and there are no fungi. I hope that my male leaves me some eggs so that I can see if these eggs were also fertile. The difference in colour is really striking and can not depend of the food because this didn't change too much in this three weeks. Can the spot were they put there eggs make a difference for the colour? raf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!