Speaking of bargains... Last Sunday just before the superbowl, (great time to get good service!), I found 3 tanks full of various Apistos that the guy told me were wild caught. They had labels such as "Misc. Apistogramma", and "Gold Dwarf Cichlid". I picked out about 6 pair at $2.99 and $4.99 each, and took them home to see if I could ID any of them accurately. One pair looks like a very colorful Macmasteri or Vijeta form I. The lateral line appears to be broken at times, and other times looks to be zigzag. The female has a distinct black spot between the ventral fins, and the leading edge of the fins are black. She has not yet colored up to breeding colors. The male has some red on the top and bottom of the caudle, and red spots above the lateral line just behind the head with light blue streaking in front of the gills. Another pair looks like a Caucatoid with no color on the fins at all. The Dorsal rays are straight spiked, and quite high. There are 3 faint lines just below the lateral line on both male and female. The general body color is very faded yellow, and turns darker as it goes up the back. The caudle is lyrate on both the male and female, and the female looks to be getting very gold since I brought them home. The male also has some blue streaking on his head. Compared to a tank raised pair I have, the new female has a higher spike on her dorsal, and gets a much brighter color of yellow. The males have a similar lip shape and size proportionate to their body. The new pair have much more distinct striping below the lateral line as well. One oddity of note, at least to me, is the caudle appears to round on the top and bottom slightly before it trails into a lyre tail. The others I have the caudle goes straight back into a lyre. They also had a pair there that I didn't purchase that looked like an Aggie in every way except for a lyre tail instead if the lancelot tail. I have the Linke & Staek Dwarf SA book, but I'm still unsure of the how to ID these fish properly. I am borrowing a digital camera from a friend soon, and should be able to post some pic on my website soon. Any help on the ID would be appreciated! Thanks, Phil Eaton Dallas TX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!