i would like to add a few words of caution to this thread: it's always good to be alerted about unscrupulous vendors/clients. on the other hand, just because someone says so-so is a bad vendor/client, doesn't mean it is so... unless we get the 2 sides of the story. just my 2 shillings. tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!