There's been an exhaustive thread on the Killie Talk list about allergies, which I suffer from too, to frozen and freeze-dried bloodworms. But I haven't noticed any ill effect from live black worms. Are they the same or different? Bill Vannerson McHenry, IL http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/william_vannerson ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!