Mike & Diane Wise wrote: > > Gary & everyone else, > > Every time you try to ID an apisto please repeat: "Color is not used in IDing > apistos, color is not used in IDing apistos, color is not used in IDing apistos, Hey Mike, That's colour with a "u" up here. My problem is the lack of black. The fish is clear blue, with an accent on the first adjective. Even stressed, he stays poorly marked. I took the caudal spot as a given. The photos, other than Linke's, are of strongly marked fish, where this lad seems as inclined to pop stripes as a borellii. However, going from the lateral line, some faint striation on the belly and the description of caudal shape/markings and body size, I'm most likely looking at commbrae. The photos in the various books are not very helpful. I started looking at tail shape, as it did differ slightly in some books, then began to doubt the photos. It would be good if we had a central bank of info like the descriptions Mike has posted here. This is the first time I've tried to differentiate between such similar fish using Aqualog, Linke and Shaefer. They'll give you a general idea, but it's not good once things get dodgy. Can one reprint a description on a website - ie, is such scientific information public domain or copyright? What is the convention? I'd happily type summary of description type stuff like that in for the ASG site, if it were kosher. -Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!