I caught the last half hour. I was pretty impressed. Did they say what river system they were focusing on? I saw some Cardinal tetras, Festivums and some surinamensis-types so it had to be up north somewhere. I still cant get the image of the Jaguar swimming - shot from a few feet below the animal! Wow! We have to get Juan Miguel to move from Mexico to Manaus - he'll get us some really nice underwater shots. Vinny ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!