Hello again to all This is a bit of an add-on to Chad's question about interbreeding wilds and tank breds. I have two blue rams of which the male is the common variety and the female is supposedly wild caught. (At least that is what the manager of the LFS told me.) I've had them for about a month now, the male is doing fine. They are both in my 55g comm. with my A. cacas who regularily chase the rams out of their "territory". Since being introduced into this environment the female has never shown the absolutely beautiful colours she was sporting at the store the day I purchased her. She won't drop her black markings, her blue won't show and the typically distinct black spot is all mixed in with the rest of the black/brown colouring on her sides. Also, she has two tiny white spots on her caudal fin and what appears to be a very small whitish growth on one of her pectorals. Her demeanor seems normal, she eats well, even fights Mr. Pl*co for the algae wafers. The fact that they may never breed is not my main concern in that I can't even get a viable batch from my apistos. My question is how do I identify these spots and if I can't do I quarantine her? Also, should I be segregating her from the other more territorial fish in this tank? If I could find a suitable mate for her I would eventually like to try and breed her but for now her health is my main concern. Thanx in advance. Kyle ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!