Vern, This is an update on what I've previously reported on A. sp. Tef� (I think Erik has it recorded on the Krib web site). It now appears that there are only 2 agassizii-complex species from the Rio Tef�, one is a standard aggie and the other is a separate species (A. sp. Tef�). I have been told by other German hobbyists that the breeding experiments used by Peter & Martin Hoffmann not only could not be repeated, but that the Tef� I & II forms readily interbreed for other hobbyists. This contradicts the Hoffmann's published report indicating 2 different species of Tef�. Randy's photo of Tef� shows the many wavy horizontal lines that characterize the Tef� II form of the specie. The 2 forms of this species can be easily separated by the pattern of horizontal stripes on the flanks. Tef� I has stripes composed of dark pigment only on the front edges of the scales. The same stripes in Tef� II are formed by black pigment surrounding the entire outer edges of the scales. Crossing the 2 forms reportedly produces only Tef� I type horizontal stripes, so the type II form must be recessive. Color forms are in the eyes of the owner. In Koslowski's 1994 article on Apistos of the Rio Tef� he pictures a red backed and a white form of what appear to be Tef� I and a yellow form of Tef� II. He doesn't distinguish between the 2 forms. Matsuzaka's book Aquarium 2300 Atlas shows a yellow & a blue Tef�, both Tef� II. That's the latest info that I have. Mike Wise Vern Wensley wrote: > > > > > > Is this form I or II?Or is there much of a difference?David Soares has some > > he is calling red/blue and I was wondering if they are all the same fish.Can > > someone out there explain the difference. > > Vern > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Randy & Deb Carey <carey@spacestar.net> > > To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com> > > Date: March 12, 2000 5:46 AM > > Subject: Re: Rio Tefe > > > > >I have a photo posted at > > > http://characin.com/carey/species/cichlid/apistos/a_tefe.html > > > > > >(Unfortunately, the image has some white spots from either suspended > > particles or > > >spots on the glass.) > > > > > >-- Randy > > > > > >Vern Wensley wrote: > > > > > >> Hi all,does anyone know where I can see a good picture of A.sp.Rio > > >> Tefe?Thanks. > > >> Vern > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!