Vern, This is an update on what I've previously reported on A. sp. Tefé (I think Erik has it recorded on the Krib web site). It now appears that there are only 2 agassizii-complex species from the Rio Tefé, one is a standard aggie and the other is a separate species (A. sp. Tefé). I have been told by other German hobbyists that the breeding experiments used by Peter & Martin Hoffmann not only could not be repeated, but that the Tefé I & II forms readily interbreed for other hobbyists. This contradicts the Hoffmann's published report indicating 2 different species of Tefé. Randy's photo of Tefé shows the many wavy horizontal lines that characterize the Tefé II form of the specie. The 2 forms of this species can be easily separated by the pattern of horizontal stripes on the flanks. Tefé I has stripes composed of dark pigment only on the front edges of the scales. The same stripes in Tefé II are formed by black pigment surrounding the entire outer edges of the scales. Crossing the 2 forms reportedly produces only Tefé I type horizontal stripes, so the type II form must be recessive. Color forms are in the eyes of the owner. In Koslowski's 1994 article on Apistos of the Rio Tefé he pictures a red backed and a white form of what appear to be Tefé I and a yellow form of Tefé II. He doesn't distinguish between the 2 forms. Matsuzaka's book Aquarium 2300 Atlas shows a yellow & a blue Tefé, both Tefé II. That's the latest info that I have. Mike Wise Vern Wensley wrote: > > > > > > Is this form I or II?Or is there much of a difference?David Soares has some > > he is calling red/blue and I was wondering if they are all the same fish.Can > > someone out there explain the difference. > > Vern > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Randy & Deb Carey <carey@spacestar.net> > > To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com> > > Date: March 12, 2000 5:46 AM > > Subject: Re: Rio Tefe > > > > >I have a photo posted at > > > http://characin.com/carey/species/cichlid/apistos/a_tefe.html > > > > > >(Unfortunately, the image has some white spots from either suspended > > particles or > > >spots on the glass.) > > > > > >-- Randy > > > > > >Vern Wensley wrote: > > > > > >> Hi all,does anyone know where I can see a good picture of A.sp.Rio > > >> Tefe?Thanks. > > >> Vern > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!