Jerry, Could you not get some empty Apple Snail shells from other fishy friends. I know I save all my unfortunate shells when the apple snails die. I pass those onto others who keep Tanganyikan species. Helen > Shell-Dwelling chiclids and they are suited more to my water supply. > Suggestions would be appreciated. > Jerry F. Kasey ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!