Cory and Susanne Williamson wrote: > > Sort of an aside to the breeding territory comments- my A. Sao Gabriel pair > which are housed in a 90 gallon planted "community" tank typically take over > about a third of the tank when they have fry - I am always amazed by their > ability to protect their fry against predators Hi, I have some questions for you. To begin, I have a few tanks given over to fish from a wonderful Sao Gabriel shipment, Apistogramma sp cf breitbinden Sao gabriel, sp cf uapesi (lyretail) and a mendezi-like fish. Can I ask which you have? The breitbinden male has a spikey dorsal and a huge patch on his caudal peduncle, with a lyretail, while the 'lyretail' is thinner bodied with a big dorsal and streamers on the male's large lyre. The mendezi type has a biteniata shape and spotting throughout the caudal. Then, since I love these fish, what is your water like? Mine keep coming very close to breeding, but stopping short. Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!