I have been using cyclop-eeze and freshwater mysis shrimp for about 2-3 months now.All my fish seem to have brighter colors.To feed the bigger apistos I take a pinch and stick my fingers in the water.It will clump together making for a bigger piece.For fry I just sprinkle on top and stir with my finger so it gets in the water column.Havent had a fish refuse it .The german hobbists swear by cyclops and daphnia,brings out the red.Cyclop-eeze is alot cheaper and lasts a very long time.I bought 2-100g cans and dont see having to buy more fore a very long time. Vern ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!