With the recent thread on wild rams, there has been some mention of the difficulty of getting commercially bred rams to raise their young. Has anyone been successful? I'm trying to gather some other people's experiences for an article I hope to write for a local newsletter. I've tried a whole bunch of stuff myself. Mine just keep eating them like caviar (well, i guess it is). I know their fertile as I've had fry when I hatched artificially. They just spawned again...tomorrow I plan to get some of those meshes they use for discus and put it around the spawning site...maybe that'll work!! Any inpute appreciated. Thanks, Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!