Since I have had my A. cacatuoides I have fed them frozen and live (BS, worms) to induce spawning. Of course, I didn't know what I was in for, now I have a tank full of fry that are 1/2 inch and two females in my community tank, each with a brood of free-swimmers. If frozen/live induces spawning does flake/freeze dried induce a break? I could resort to removing the male but I would like to keep him around a while, he is the most beautiful fish in the tank. Unfortunately, I don't have the resources to get more tanks. I have thought of removing the females but they are both great breeders/parents I would hate to have to give them up. How about an ovipositor plug? I guess I will have to decide which to get rid of... ugghhhhh. Kyle 'foating on a raft of fry' Beaudry ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!