Hi, I've been e-mailing with a non-list member who is having a consistent problem with his apistos. I'll post and translate any responses for him. Fry from six species, across the apisto spectrum have hatched into belly sliders, never recovering even into adulthood. I suspect water, but I've never seen this in my own tanks, so I can't help much. Has anyone else seen this? Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!