I feel Dr. Olson reflects my views exactly. I'll use anything that has been scientifically tested and found effective, be it "natural" or synthetic. All of the old stand-by antibiotics have had scientific testing on humans and found effective. I can't say that for most "natural" medicines. Besides, if it's good enough for me, I feel it's good enough for my fish. Mike Wise Kathy Olson wrote: > Afraid I have to agree with Colin on this one. We have lots of > medications derived from Herbs/Natural remedies, and there is a place for > them in Medicine. However, too many people do think since they are > natural or a herb they are better and safe. Not so...Colin had a nice > list and you can add to that Taxol from the Yew tree as the new main > chemotherapeutic drug in several regimens for different cancers. Just in > case you do think these are safe we have now had at least two people come > in to the ICU with Herb/Homeopathic medicine side effects (and more than > that to the hospital). One > young lady (30's) had seizures, and then had washed out her kidney > gradient...it took us four days to stabilize her kidney's so they would > actually work again (concentrate urine), oh yeah she also lysed a bunch of > her muscle cells (in non technical terms). > It was quite an ordeal....and of course all we could do is stabilize her > until the herbs wore off...thank goodness it was days, not weeks or she > may not have made it. So, beware, all plants/extracts have the potential > to be drugs, know what you are using, and follow directions (hopefully > someone has tested it before you). > > Kathy (M.D.) > > On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Stuart Hall wrote: > > > Chad Attlesey wrote: > > > > > You can also go to http://www.petopia.com/ and do a search for Melafix. Try > > > it, it is good stuff. I used it to treat torn fins and infection with great > > > success. I like it because it is a natural antibiotic and seems to greatly > > > accelerate fin repair and minimize/eliminate permanent damage. Unlike other > > > medications, it doesn't seem to have any side effects or stress the fish > > > being treated. It isn't snake oil. No, I don't own stock in the company > > > either.... > > > > I want to make a quick comment here because Chad brings up an important point > > which happens to be a favorite topic of mine. > > > > Don't be fooled into thinking something is better in any way, shape, or form just > > because it's "natural." Without being particularly facetious, I can bring up that > > digitalis comes from the plant foxglove, and that atropine comes from deadly > > nightshade. Aspirin first came from willow bark. I can understand the motivation > > behind trying to buy natural products, but I have reservations about using tea > > tree oil in a fish tank. > > > > My reasoning is this: tea tree oil is an effective, NONSPECIFIC bactericide; in > > other words, it kills bacteria indiscriminately. Including, potentially, the > > biological filter. I've read that people have used it to treat Hexamita spp. > > infections. Sure, it might work, but so does metronidazole, and metronidazole > > does not hurt the biological filter. Also, it's not generally recommended that > > tea tree oil be taken internally. Who knows what the toxic dose would be for > > fish, anyway? > > > > If you have a stubborn infection and you can properly isolate your ill fish in a > > treatment tank, then it might not be a bad idea to use something broad-spectrum > > like tea tree oil. It may or may not have side-effects; certainly anecdotal > > evidence that it doesn't speaks well for it, but by no means do we have a > > significant sample. Bear in mind that "natural" doesn't equal "safe" or "better." > > > > Stuart > > > > (Oh, I don't know, I guess it just pushed one of my buttons.) > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!