It sounds like all males to me. The females generally don't have the blue coloration. They do, however have black on the leading edge of the pelvic fins, which the males lack. Take a look at the fins. Here's a shot of a female: <A HREF="http://www.ca.sakura.ne.jp/~adh/gallery/Images/borelliif19990801-01.jpg" >http://www.ca.sakura.ne.jp/~adh/gallery/Images/borelliif19990801-01.jpg</A> This is a female in brood color. It looks like there are fry in this photo: <A HREF="http://www.ca.sakura.ne.jp/~adh/gallery/Images/borelliif20000228-01.jpg" >http://www.ca.sakura.ne.jp/~adh/gallery/Images/borelliif20000228-01.jpg</A> This should clear it up. The differences are pretty clear between the guys and the gals. Bob Dixon ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!