I got a pair of opal borellii from Sammy at South Bay Aquatics(fishforyou.com) on Friday. I was finally ready to do the water right. I filled the tank about 80% of the way with DI from a Tap Water Purifier, and topped it off from the tap. I got GH 1º, KH 2º, and pH 6.2. They spawned today. Very cool. In the past I have fought my water with all kinds of stuff, none of it as easy as this was. It also helps that the fish were well cared for before they were shipped all the way from Long Island to Idaho. Bob Dixon ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!