Mike Thanks for getting back on that. I have no problem with it being on Friday night, im going because of this group and my main interest is in Apistos anyways, so it wont bother me to miss some rift lake talks!!!! And for the drive, mine is only about 500 miles, so i dont envy your drive. Good luck hope you've got some ppl sharing the ride/drive with you? With Gas prices the way they are why not Fly? You can always ship fish and then fly, gotta be cheaper then driving 3000 miles round trip!!! Either way im really looking forward to your slide show, as far as im concerned it'll be the highlight of the weekend for me! John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!