In a message dated 8/23/00 7:48:13 PM Mountain Daylight Time, rgrenfell@snet.net writes: << Do you think that 15ppm is too high for fry? >> I wouldn't think so. But if you can keep it lower, I would do so. I manage 8-10 ppm with my best growth rate fry. The other option is that they aren't getting the amount of food they need. >I fed them 3 times a day and siphoned off anything that settled (the >worms are kinda hard to see though). If you are feeding live freshwater-compatible live foods, it isn't necessary to siphon it off right away. I would try to give the fry several hours to eat what they want. You will also find that they grow better on brine shrimp, daphnia, or cyclops than microworms. However, microworms can be critically important in getting very small fry up to a size where they can eat the other stuff. Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!