Hi guys, thanks to everyone who answered my questions aobut N.transvestitus and apisto borelii. Both N.transvestitus females are guarding clutches of wrigglers, and all three borelii females have wrigglers also (two of them decided to spawn in the same cave despite other caves around). Mothers and babies feel great. Fathers are still alive. With transvestitus my problem probably was that of some pollutant in water, since partial water change with new batch of rain water fixed the problem of constantly fungusing eggs. Newly purchased borelii ate first batch of eggs, I still suspect it was not fertilized. Anyway, thanks to all, have to set BS culture tonight... Best, Lilia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!