Randy, Take a look at the following links and compare them to your fish. Forget about the metallic blue colors on the "Winkelfleck". It's better if you compare it to one of your bigger males. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jsmelgar/images/Amasken.jpg http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jsmelgar/images/winkel1.jpg Julio ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!