all my rams seem to have a nice appetite for their eggs. i always thought that the loss of parental instinct was a result of years of domestic breeding but people on the list seem to have no trouble getting ram parents to rear their own young. why is this so? and also, i had a bare ten gallon tank set up with three a. cacatoides in it. they were very uncomfortable and just cowered in the corners all day until i added gravel and a few plants in the tank. they were happy as can be. however, a day after i added the gravel and put in the power filter, the water clouded up and has remained clouded ever since for a week and a half already. clouding for a few days is natural in a new set up but not for this long! does anyone know what is the matter? i have done a 25% water change everyday with no improvement in water clarity. the apistos seem to be happy though because the clouds provide them with cover but i'm not because i can't see them! the only other residents are five dither zebra danios and the pH is 6.6. any help or suggestions would be appreciated! -frank _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!