I have been observing the fry for the last two days, and they tend to get together and stuck when I turn the lights off. They are supposed to quit acting this way as long as days pass by, arenīt they? I had a look at the archives and I read an article about breeding gold rams. I was not sure about breeding gold rams with blue ones, it looks it is possible. Anyway I am having no trouble breeding gold with gold, as someone pointed out in one of the articles. My last pair used to spawn every 9 days, but I used to lose a lot of eggs. On the other hand almost all the fry that got free swimming became an adult. Maybe any of you would like to make a comment... Amer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!