I think they are affected by this. I had a pair of anabantoids who were regularly spawning. Dad turned out to be a great parent, and defended the nest well. After I moved them to a community tank, they spawned only once more--and the eggs were eaten by a relatively large fish, unaffected by the pair's attacks in defense of the nest. The male seemed to get rather withdrawn and they did not spawn again. He developed a fungus and popeye and seemed to physically deteriorate. After about 2 months, another male decided to spawn with this same female. The previously virile male did his best in a showdown to be the chosen one, but he was obviously the lesser of the two, at this point. The new *dad* had no problem, after the spawning took place, in leaving the nest, rather than vigorously defending it, as did the old *dad*. In fact, a new one appeared less than a week later, in a different area of the tank. Okay, it could have been coincidence, or the other way around . . . but I think breeding is stressful on fish, and probably more so when they are attentive parents--having greater instinct to defend the nest and unable to successfully do so adds additional stress to the whole thing, I'd guess. Sylvia > Can a fish get frustrated if its eggs are constantly being eaten by >other fish, always fungusing or are pulled out, and stop breeding because of >it, although otherwise capable? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!