IDMiamiBob@aol.com writes: > It is notable, however, that wild apistos are reported to breed easier and > have larger spawns than even F1 offspring. But the evidence of this is > more > anecdotal than actually studied. I was advised by a long-time hobbyist when I was looking into acquiring apistos, to opt for tank-bred and raised apistos as opposed to wild. She felt that the tank raised would be more adaptable and easy to breed than wild caught. My experience with the tank raised guys, so far (several breeding sessions where all eggs were eaten, probably by mom, despite vigorous defense of the nest) is that few eggs are produced. I figured after a few spawns she might get things right, and stop making a snack out of them. As a deterrent, I even deliberately threw worms at feeding time directly down to the spot where her nest was, since she wouldn't come out to eat. Interestingly enough, even though provided a cave for spawning, they opted to lay eggs on the leaves of valisneria plants. Just yesterday, I finally pulled the leaves off and placed them in a net breeder within the tank to try to raise something viable myself. There are probably about 10 eggs in all. Since I caught them early in the game (presumably before any were eaten), I am assuming that this is about all that was produced. Another oddity I noticed--I had 2 male viejitas and 1 female in this tank, with cardinal tetras & some small killies. It seemed up to now they were following the right formula. Mom defended the nest, dad the territory. The other male Viejita was harrassed severely by the dad. After it appears dad successfully killed off the non-breeding viejita, he turned his aggression on the female after spawning. While she was trying to watch the nest yesterday, he was chasing her down with a vengeance, with body attacks included. That's when I decided to pull the eggs. I'm not sure whether he designated himself as nest watcher or what his problem was. Any ideas on this? Or does this just prove out Bob's theory, and my fish are incapable of normal parental behavior? (not to mention the low number of eggs produced). Sylvia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, email@example.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email firstname.lastname@example.org. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!