Are you sure the A. paraca is an Apisto and not juveniles of another genus? I've seen the name Paracas used for at least Laetacara thayeri, Acaronia nassa, and Acarichthys heckelii. Julio ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!