One way to get the benefits of both is to use plant basket. You can buy such from thatpetplace, or make your own with a butter tub and a awl or small hole punch. I have used both are think the commercial basket works better enough to justify the small expense. The idea is you put the gravel in the basket and the plant, or plants, in the gravel. This allows plants to be there but still allows you to keep the tank very clean of debris by moving the basket when you siphon the bottom. Another thing is that snails, which I detest in a display aquarium, are a valuable addition to a fry rearing tank. Snail poop is so much easer to siphon then decaying food. Peace john On 22-Jan-01 Riley39354@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > I use both bare bottom tanks, and tanks with gravel and i dont notice a > difference. I have a ten gallon bare bottom tank, with a pair of panduro in > it, and they are perfectly happy. I like the ease of cleaning the bare bottom > tanks better. Just a thought. > > Kevin Riley ---------------------------------- E-Mail: John N. Alegre <listhub@libros.andante.mn.org> Date: 23-Jan-01 Time: 10:59:50 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!